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667 or 800 or 1066 FSB?
Which model do you have?
Dave
Hi all,
I'm looking for a new CPU on my TouchSmart.
Anyone have done that? Is it possible? I'm looking for Intel VT support that my T5850 doesn't have :(
June 15, 2009 8:34 AM
We discussed this a while back, you can find it here:
http://www.touchsmartcommunity.com/forum/thread/598/Any-succesfuly-CPU-or-MXM...
You gotta search with keywords for stale posts to avoid repetition of answers, some forums will crucify you for a violation of this old rule...
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June 16, 2009 10:43 AM
Well... we won't crucify new members. That would just be a little too harsh. :)
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June 16, 2009 2:36 PM
Yes, That's one of the good things about this forum, nobody here is a hothead.
It sounds like you have either an 804 or an 815 model, so it's going to be limited to the slower FSB of the 800 series' motherboard. The 800's have the Intel GM965 Express laptop chipset on the Pegatron "Eve" motherboard. The 200 pin DIMM memory bus is limited to 667MhZ, and the FSB for the CPU is maxxed out at 800MhZ, so you have Core 2 duo choices in the 6000, 7000, 8000, and 9000 series. The 7000 and 8000 series intel C2D CPU's are the only ones you can currently buy as a consumer that have the VM capability inside. NewEgg has them; starting at $249.99 for the T7500 Merom with 4MB of L2 cache; go here to see the 3 that will work with an 800 series if that is what you have:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010340759+168634...
The intel CPU spec finder is a nice tool to have, and it's online here, and I have them sorted by CPU FSB speed for you:
http://processorfinder.intel.com/List.aspx?ParentRadio=All&ProcFam=2643&Searc...
The fastest CPU that will plug in and work with your motherboard is the T9500, and you may only be able to find it on ebay because it doesn't sell on retail level, and the spec sheet from intel is here:
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLAPW
As far as the bios of the 800 series is concerned, THAT may be the only limiter you have for an upgrade. Ask HP over the phone to see if they support any higher stepped CPU's in the latest bios for your model TouchSmart. Keep calling HP back until you get someone on the line that knows what you are asking for, and can answer definitively. You are talking about a good sum of money here, and returns on CPU's are basically you re-selling it on ebay to the highest bidder, so make sure you know before you go for it.
Hope this helped, it gets expensive, but if you need more power, there is a way.
Dave
June 16, 2009 2:39 PM
Oh, BTW, here is the link to the Pegatron (Asus) motherboard you have in your 40 pound laptop, known as the TouchSmart:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01489642&lc=en&cc=us&pro...
Dave
June 16, 2009 7:02 PM
Good writeup Dave! :-)
David
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June 16, 2009 10:53 PM
updated: June 16, 2009 10:53 PM
Thanks Dave and that is my motherboard.
I did search for this type of request and I've found the same thread that you've sent. But no one told a success story on that thread so I ping again trying to find someone new.
And as you told my concern is not about the CPU upgrade itself (I know I can open my 40 pound laptop :)) but on the BIOS it doesn't have any VT options. I don't know if this options will be available when I plug the new CPU using my BIOS version (5.1 - 2009-02-25).
I'll try to call HP but I don't think that this will help me. Probably they will tell me that I'm crazy and Intel VT doesn't exist. :p
June 17, 2009 6:01 AM
VT wasn't available in the bios when my original T6600 was in there, but it appeared after I installed the P9500 I have in there now. Here's hoping that the bios was upgraded on the Eve board as it was on the Maureen in the 500 series. I felt secure enough 3 months later to sell my original CPU on ebay for 70 bucks to some nice lady in Alberta. After tweaking my msconfig setup to drop some of the software bloat, (90 processes running down to 60 processes) I am now able to play Bioshock cranked up to the max at 1024 x 768 with the stock factory 9300M video card with stock drivers from HP, and Call of Doody 5 at the same resolution and settings. Speaking of Doody, I gotta go now...
Dave
June 18, 2009 2:22 PM
WaveRider said: VT wasn't available in the bios when my original T6600 was in there, but it appeared after I installed the P9500 I have in there now. Here's hoping that the bios was upgraded on the Eve board as it was on the Maureen in the 500 series. I felt secure enough 3 months later to sell my original CPU on ebay for 70 bucks to some nice lady in Alberta. After tweaking my msconfig setup to drop some of the software bloat, (90 processes running down to 60 processes) I am now able to play Bioshock cranked up to the max at 1024 x 768 with the stock factory 9300M video card with stock drivers from HP, and Call of Doody 5 at the same resolution and settings. Speaking of Doody, I gotta go now... Dave
So Dave, you have done a sucessfull upgrade on your TouchSmart from a T6600 to a P9500?? That's a great news!
And the VT option just pop up on the BIOS after you change CPU? Now I want my new CPU and I hope this option pop up for me too :)
June 18, 2009 5:19 PM
I'm not sure if when I did mine it was due to the bios update that HP did around the time I upgraded the chip, or if it was due to the actual swap of the CPU turning on the option within my existing bios. For about a week or so after I installed the new CPU, my device manager reported a T6600 was still in there, yet the performance meter within Windows Vista 64 went up to 5.4 from 4.1. The bios reported a 2.53 GhZ P9500 right from the start. Since these are two different motherboards with totally different bios bin files and intel chipsets, you may want to do a little more research before you plunk down the $250+ for a new processor. I'll go back on to HP's website to see if they address the effects of the various bios updates. Hold on just a doggone minute, as Huckleberry Hound used to say, let's make sure you're not pi$$ed off after your big purchase. I did my own research before I bought mine, but for the 500 series that I own, a horse of a different color, for sure.
Dave
June 18, 2009 5:59 PM
I have the TouchSmart IQ510br with BIOS 5.10.
I'm planning to buy the T8300 that is supported on my Eve motherboard.
I've search the internet but I can't find no one that have done this upgrade to confirm that the VT option appears on the BIOS Menu.
Dave, what is your motherboard? Because you have the VT option
June 18, 2009 8:26 PM
updated: June 18, 2009 8:40 PM
Well, bios version 5.10 is the latest, but HP doesn't list the CPU's it works with. However, the T8100 is installed in the IQ816, with the same motherboard and bios, so your T8300 has got to work. It surprises me to see that some of the 500 series TS PC's have the EVE mobo, but evidently it's not an 800 only motherboard. I bought my iq526 expressly because of the Maureen mobo with the PM/GM45 chipset and because of the 1066 MhZ FSB of the CPU. I have a P series intel C2/Duo with the low power consumption 25W die, so I could possibly go hotter on the Video later without overloading the TS' power brick, but so far, the bios in the MXMII cards I've tried were not bootable in the TS. The TS hasn't been around long enough, nor is it popular enough with extreme modders to get much input from others who have experimented with the video card upgrade, or even tried to mod the bios hashes. I hope this trend changes, and I'll definitely be posting anything I find out about it.
Dave
June 18, 2009 10:44 PM
thanks Dave for all of your answers.
I´ll start looking for some good price T8300 on my next trip to US.
July 31, 2009 9:44 AM
It won't work on either the Eve (IQ800 series) or the Maureen (IQ500 series) motherboards, the chipsets aren't compatible with the Quad Core, and 35W is the max power that the board and probably the 150W power brick/transformer is rated for. I'm really happy with my P9500 Mobile Core 2 Duo, it has 6MB of L2, runs at 1066Mhz on the Front Side Bus, and does all this on 25W. You can also get the T9400, which runs at 35W, if you must use the extra 10W, but there is no performance gain, just more heat to dissipate, but it is about $40 cheaper. You are still looking at $330 for a retail boxed chip. I'm not sure if you can even buy an OEM C2Duo from retail sources, so I can't comment on prices for the tray only CPU's. Hope this helps. BTW, the fastest chips run on the 500 series, the 800 series' motherboards are capped at 800 MhZ FSB, and the RAM runs at 667 MhZ on the 800, whereas the 500 series runs the 1066 and 800 MhZ FSB, and the RAM at 800MhZ.
There you go!
Dave
August 29, 2009 10:51 PM
Hi,
I was looking at this table at Intel's site,
http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?codeName=26543
and it looks to me that my IQ507 can go up to the T9500 (2.60g / 800m fsb / 6mb / 35w )
The 507 has an Eve mobo in it... it's marked 800 fsb, has anyone tried a faster one in it (do they downshift?)
Curious, and sorry if it's a dumb question...
But is that the top end option for my TS?
Paisley Pirate
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August 30, 2009 5:34 AM
Processors with the 1066 mhz FSB perform better, but since the Eve mobo is in your TS, you are married to the 800 mhz FSB. The fastest CPU for the 507 is the one you have posted, so the T9500 is currently your top option.
Dave
August 31, 2009 5:23 PM
Here I'm again to talk about my upgrade process.
I've just installed a T9300 to my IQ510 and it's working like a charm (with VT Enabled :))
So thanks to WaveRider for all the answers!
August 31, 2009 5:31 PM
Cool!
I just ordered a T9500 for mine a few minutes ago, and will keep everyone informed when it gets here and I get it installed.
As an aside, I took a 4gb thumbdrive and am using it for readyboost... have noticed some improvement doing that, as well...
Paisley Pirate
-Illigitimus non carborundum est
September 4, 2009 4:39 AM
Ok so I'm a little confused by all this mumbo jumbo since I don't technically have my touchsmart yet, I'm still waiting for it to come in :D
Anyways, can someone simply tell me the fastest processor I can get for my IQ800t series? Price doesn't matter, and if there's a better memory I can get I'd be willing to get that also.
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