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Bill Coughlin

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Hello there  I really appreciate anyone input here thanks in advanceI have had a terribley slow ts816  for the last year, I have tried everything to speed this puppy up. I can usually tolerate it being slow except for media. problems1.      Skype calls are broken  ( voice over voice echo even)2.      Playing music has silent breaks in it .. but did just upgrade a soundmax driver and is better3.      can not use the external mic .. plugging in does not disengage the ts array mics.I have hired professional vista support people to optimize my machine and still to no avail, it almost feels like bad ram. Anyhow I just noticed the large amount to disking  ( 57%) when I am only using 2.5 megs of the 4 meg ram and minimal applciations?????IS IT POSSIBLE to prevent SKYPE from using the disking and restricted to ram only.I am ready to try anything here find my 4 year old computer has much better Skype calls

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September 4, 2009 10:24 PM

great!!
a cut and paste from ms word after spell checking gives me micro font :(

here is it reposted

Hello there I really appreciate anyone input here thanks in advance
I have had a terribley slow ts816 for the last year, I have tried everything to speed this puppy up.
I can usually tolerate it being slow except for media.
problems
1. Skype calls are broken ( voice over voice echo even)
2. Playing music has silent breaks in it .. but did just upgrade a soundmax driver and is better
3. can not use the external mic .. plugging in does not disengage the ts array mics.
I have hired professional vista people to optimize my machine and still to no avail, it almost feels like bad ram.
Anyhow I just noticed the large amount to disking ( 57%) when I am only using 2.5 megs of the 4 meg ram?????
IS IT POSSIBLE to prevent from using the disking and restricted to ram only.
I am ready to try anything here find my 4 year old computer has much better Skype calls

September 5, 2009 9:44 AM

Bill,

Vista uses a dynamic swap file to store things to in place of RAM. You can set the size of it to custom and that should cut down on some of the constant disk thrashing.

To do that, right click on "my computer" then choose properties. In the properties menu, choose the advanced tab and in the advanced tab, choose "change" button for virtual memory. Set your max and min to just a bit more than the amount of ram that you have. I have 4 gigs of RAM so I have my max and min swap file set to 5800. It will require a reboot once you make the changes.
That should help minimize the constant disk thrashing.
Hope that helps.

David

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September 5, 2009 1:04 PM

DaveTN said: Bill, Vista uses a dynamic swap file to store things to in place of RAM. You can set the size of it to custom and that should cut down on some of the constant disk thrashing. To do that, right click on "my computer" then choose properties. In the properties menu, choose the advanced tab and in the advanced tab, choose "change" button for virtual memory. Set your max and min to just a bit more than the amount of ram that you have. I have 4 gigs of RAM so I have my max and min swap file set to 5800. It will require a reboot once you make the changes. That should help minimize the constant disk thrashing. Hope that helps. David

Hi David

 you are the master expert with all your posts wow.

I know the work it takes to be a moderator .... good job and thanks from the ts community.

David, man I have been around the block on this.  Yes i do have my virtual ram set at 4,380 with 4 meg real ram machine.

even though most pc health indicators are all find like clean out the Recycle Bin, temporary internet files, defrag,  recently run an optimizer daily called Pit stop.

I will admit I have a ton of applications, like OLD school better homes and gardens home design with an 80 meg download alone, cs4, cell phone simulators with js net beans etc. but recently have even tried to delete some of these.

 One would think that if you don't run these programs that they don't affect a minimal daily operational run.

In other words I If just run the basics, NO HP media center, but Internet Explorer 8 windows explorer and Skype that I should run like rockets.

 To No avail, I have even gone to the point of deleting every possible active process to see if my Skype conversation became clearer during a conversation.

Over time the only indicator of the slow BUG  ?extensive disking would be when LOADING my computer up and the icons on the desktop render at 1-3 per second, or that the playing spider  takes 2 seconds to have the cards deal out

 then here I am talking to you on Skype and I make a move on fire fox and your voice cuts out for 1 second .. geeeeeez. Even on my old 900 MHz 1 gig of ram mouldy oldie pc runs smoothly in the same situation.   Icons on desktop,  and playing spider render 5 times faster.

So imagine playing music and having the song cut out during the song??? Man that is not right.

Can you think of any health indicators for smooth running pc, to me when the disking goes to 100% that correlates to the breaks in music.

See attached resource monitor

http://dev.intranetsites.com/index.php?fuseaction=cPageGoTo.GoToDoc&DocumentID=44498

thanks for any input  :)

Does a  guy just close his eyes put head in sand and wait for windows 7?

September 5, 2009 1:24 PM

The CPU load looks a little strange. It never goes down to 0-1%. If you were to post a screen shot with the CPU section of Resource Monitor expanded, that might help. It would tell people which process(es) are using the CPU most on average. Another thing that would help troubleshoot would be a list of all running processes as reported by Process Explorer from Sysinternals.

September 5, 2009 1:35 PM

Here is a YOUtube moive link http://www.screencast.com/t/4mQl0sTVl3qV

doubtif this object will post but here is the movie too

September 5, 2009 2:13 PM

Hi Bill,

I noticed one thing in the Task Manager list. The dwm.exe process seems to be hovering around 20%-25% CPU usage. My guess is that is in part because you're running camtasia to record the screen. Could you check if this process always runs at that CPU load level? If it does, you may need to reinstall the HP graphics card driver.

As far as the disk graph goes, notice that the scale changes as disk load increases by orders of magnitude. I'm running Reliability and Performance Monitor on an IQ506 right now, and my Disk graph tops out at 100 KB/sec since I don't have a whole lot of programs running right now. In your screencast the graph topped out at 1 MB/sec, and in the screenshot you have here in the forum it tops out at 10 MB/sec. It seems to me that you might be able to figure out which process is contributing so much to the Disk IO by expanding the Disk pane of Reliability and Performance Monitor and experimenting with sorting on the Read and Write columns.

Oh, and running as many programs as you had in the screencast is bound to increase the need for swapping (the process of moving information between RAM and the pagefile on the hard drive when not enough RAM is present to satisfy memory allocations that programs are asking for), which is evidenced by the Memory graph in the image you posted above. You were getting 100 hard faults per second. In your screencast you got that as well, but not for nearly as long a time.

September 5, 2009 2:59 PM

Bill,

This is a shot in the dark but have you run any antispyware programs lately?

I usually use spybot search and destroy and malwarebytes to check and clean my system. Spyware will take up cpu cycles and is pretty good at masking itself in the task manager.

The good thing about spybot and malwarebytes is that they are run on demand and are only in memory when you are scanning. (Note about spybot: I choose not to run teatimer and the browser helper). Both programs are also free.

Malwarebytes download: http://download.cnet.com/Malwarebytes-Anti-Malware/3000-8022_4-10804572.html?...

Spybot download: http://www.safer-networking.org/en/ownmirrors1/index.html

David

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September 5, 2009 3:05 PM

BTW bill thanks for the thanks. :-)

You may want to increase the size of your swap file to about 6 gigs. I usually go around 1.5 times the amount of RAM.

GTG,

In Vista, I have 106 processes running and between 6 to 19%CPU and 50% RAM. Thats with IE with 4 tabs open too as well.With TS running in the background I'm at about 22% CPU and 65 to 67% RAM.

David

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Woohoo! I won my Touchsmart!

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