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davethatsnotinuse

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you buy one of these pieces of cr*p!!!!!
I have never, ever, ever, (and I've been a software developer and software QA analyst for over 10 years), seen such undependable software.


Please please please someone make it so that these computers can be depended on to run for more than 1 or 2 hours without losing touch/pen.

It's disgusting that:
- the product would ship this way
- the product would fail for NO apparent reason
- that there are NO FREAKING error logs

Give the GM workers some of the HP software developer jobs, it may or may not help, but right now i'm DISGUSTED WITH HP.

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September 21, 2009 10:14 PM

Never had these problems, must be the end user. ;D

Now we have both made our assumptions, why not spend some time analyzing why you are having such problems? Maybe start with when it started acting like this, or was it out of the box?

September 22, 2009 3:30 AM

hardware fault. you are entitled to free replacement under hp warranty.

September 22, 2009 8:25 AM

Constructive post on his part lol. Might try posting what system, what OS, driver versions, etc so we can help you?

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September 22, 2009 10:04 AM updated: September 22, 2009 11:10 PM

I have no problem with my TX2...

 Your problems are likely:

Faulty Hardware

or Vista (mainly the bloatware by hp...and the resource requirements)

I run windows 7 pro (retail release) directly (and free from my school) from microsoft and have no problems what so ever.

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September 22, 2009 9:34 PM

raggedrebel92 said: I have no problem with my TX2...  Your problems are likely: Faulty Hardware or Vista I run windows 7 pro (retail release) directly (and free) from microsoft and have no problems what so ever.

Vista is not the evil product some claim, in fact the majority of that Win 7 code you're running? it's lifted from Vista. Also note that you're not running the "retail release/free" since the retail version is not released yet, and will not be free from MS.

 Let's get it right before going off spouting nonsense!

 

September 22, 2009 10:09 PM updated: September 22, 2009 10:15 PM

Diane said:
raggedrebel92 said: I have no problem with my TX2...  Your problems are likely: Faulty Hardware or Vista I run windows 7 pro (retail release) directly (and free) from microsoft and have no problems what so ever.
Vista is not the evil product some claim, in fact the majority of that Win 7 code you're running? it's lifted from Vista. Also note that you're not running the "retail release/free" since the retail version is not released yet, and will not be free from MS.  Let's get it right before going off spouting nonsense!  
 
 I am in no way saying that vista is evil. Im saying that vista is known to run pointless services when they are not needed and does not support full touch. So basically useless for this type of system. REguarding the free windows 7 Please refer to this link "http://blogs.msdn.com/gautam/archive/2009/08/13/making-windows-7-available-to... " where windows 7 has been avaiable free for download scence aug 6th. and the direct store link http://msdn01.e-academy.com/elms/Storefront/Storefront.aspx?campus=jsr_ist&am... And the link to 64bit with the price tag "free" http://msdn01.e-academy.com/elms/Storefront/ViewProductDetails.aspx?campus=jsr_ist&np1=112&p=1444
Thank you.

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September 22, 2009 10:33 PM updated: September 22, 2009 10:34 PM

raggedrebel92 said:
Diane said:
raggedrebel92 said: I have no problem with my TX2...  Your problems are likely: Faulty Hardware or Vista I run windows 7 pro (retail release) directly (and free) from microsoft and have no problems what so ever.
Vista is not the evil product some claim, in fact the majority of that Win 7 code you're running? it's lifted from Vista. Also note that you're not running the "retail release/free" since the retail version is not released yet, and will not be free from MS.  Let's get it right before going off spouting nonsense!  
 
 I am in no way saying that vista is evil. Im saying that vista is known to run pointless services when they are not needed and does not support full touch. So basically useless for this type of system. REguarding the free windows 7 Please refer to this link "http://blogs.msdn.com/gautam/archive/2009/08/13/making-windows-7-available-to... " where windows 7 has been avaiable free for download scence aug 6th. and the direct store link http://msdn01.e-academy.com/elms/Storefront/Storefront.aspx?campus=jsr_ist&am... And the link to 64bit with the price tag "free" http://msdn01.e-academy.com/elms/Storefront/ViewProductDetails.aspx?campus=jsr_ist&np1=112&p=1444 Thank you.

Look really closely at that link..

It's not "free" nor is it "retail" It's a school that's apparently improperly making MSDN media available. Windows 7 is not a "free product"

You're also off-base when you say 'Vista is useless for this type of system" Vista not only works fine, it's the preinstalled OS on these very same systems.

Diane

September 22, 2009 10:45 PM updated: September 22, 2009 10:51 PM

Diane said:
raggedrebel92 said:
Diane said:
raggedrebel92 said: I have no problem with my TX2...  Your problems are likely: Faulty Hardware or Vista I run windows 7 pro (retail release) directly (and free) from microsoft and have no problems what so ever.
Vista is not the evil product some claim, in fact the majority of that Win 7 code you're running? it's lifted from Vista. Also note that you're not running the "retail release/free" since the retail version is not released yet, and will not be free from MS.  Let's get it right before going off spouting nonsense!  
 
 I am in no way saying that vista is evil. Im saying that vista is known to run pointless services when they are not needed and does not support full touch. So basically useless for this type of system. REguarding the free windows 7 Please refer to this link "http://blogs.msdn.com/gautam/archive/2009/08/13/making-windows-7-available-to... " where windows 7 has been avaiable free for download scence aug 6th. and the direct store link http://msdn01.e-academy.com/elms/Storefront/Storefront.aspx?campus=jsr_ist&am... And the link to 64bit with the price tag "free" http://msdn01.e-academy.com/elms/Storefront/ViewProductDetails.aspx?campus=jsr_ist&np1=112&p=1444 Thank you.
Look really closely at that link.. It's not "free" nor is it "retail" It's a school that's apparently improperly making MSDN media available. Windows 7 is not a "free product" You're also off-base when you say 'Vista is useless for this type of system" Vista not only works fine, it's the preinstalled OS on these very same systems. Diane

Im a student at this collage and there is nothing legally wrong with this. I am not saying its a free product but microsoft is making it free to download for students at select collages that partnership with microsoft. Microsoft gives you a unique serial and you download directly from microsfts servers. And im saying vista is useless because:

No multitouch support without programs such as hp... "touch" software

Poor touch user interface

also if you look at the posts on this site you will notice that there are many people saying that windows 7 preforms and fuctions perfectly on these laptops.

(below is the how this works directly from the JSR center page.

Or just google:

MSDN Academic Alliance Program free windows 7 for students.

English (United States) 1) Login to the System

You must have a valid user account in this system before you can order software. Your MSDNAA Program Administrator (PA) is responsible for registering you; if you believe you should have access to this system but do not have an account, please click on the Support tab for information on how to contact your PA.

2) Select Software Once you've logged into the system, click on the Software tab to view the software titles available to you.

3) Select Delivery Option Some software titles provide more than one delivery option. Please be careful to choose the delivery option that is right for you (it is not always possible to switch delivery options after you've completed your order).

4) Obtain and Install Software

Depending on the delivery option you select, one of the following set of instructions will apply to you. If your software requires a serial number or activation code, it will be displayed on the order confirmation page (you can always access this through My Software).

Secure Internet Download: This option allows you to download the software over the internet, directly to your computer. When you click the download button on the order confirmation page, you'll be prompted to save a small file to your computer; we recommend you save this to your desktop, but just be sure to choose a location you can easily find. Once you've downloaded the file, double-click to begin the actual software download for your order.

CD Check-Out: After ordering the software for CD Check-Out, the system will notify you if the media is available for you to pick up. If it is not available for pick-up, you will be placed on a reservation list and will be emailed when the media is available for pick-up.

Network Install: This option allows you to install the software directly from a campus server (rather than downloading over the internet). Your computer must have access to the campus LAN. If you encounter difficulties, please contact your Program Administrator for assistance.

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September 22, 2009 10:59 PM updated: September 22, 2009 11:00 PM

raggedrebel92 said:
Diane said: Look really closely at that link.. It's not "free" nor is it "retail" It's a school that's apparently improperly making MSDN media available. Windows 7 is not a "free product" You're also off-base when you say 'Vista is useless for this type of system" Vista not only works fine, it's the preinstalled OS on these very same systems. Diane
Im a student at this collage and there is nothing legally wrong with this. I am not saying its a free product but microsoft is making it free to download for students at select collages that partnership with microsoft. Microsoft gives you a unique serial and you download directly from microsfts servers. And im saying vista is useless because: No multitouch support without programs such as hp... "touch" software Poor touch user interface also if you look at the posts on this site you will notice that there are many people saying that windows 7 preforms and fuctions perfectly on these laptops.

As a student at the institution you are eligible for certain benefits, this does not however apply to everyone else. The rules on student and MSDN use are strict, and the majority of users will not have this kind of access apply to them. These rules are quite strict in where and how you can use MSDN applications.

Your opinion that Vista is "useless on these laptops" is just that, and we all have our opinions.

Diane

September 22, 2009 11:08 PM updated: September 22, 2009 11:11 PM

I agree not everyone has theese privilages. And nor was i stating everyone does. I was simpially stationg that I got MY copy for free.

And yes I am aware we all have our opinions. I supported vista 200% in the days after xp. but with 7 now, Im all for seven mostly for the higher end UI and better accessibility for handycapt students/people. I am not handycaped, but do have 2 friends who are. Im just saying on theese laptops, hp could have used a non-multi touch digitiser or just kept the tx2500 around untill 7s release then the tx2 for the full multi touch experiance. Mainly because of all the unsatisified customers who bought a multi touch notebook before the 7 upgrade start date. they got the rough end of the stick.

i have revised the above statement to better suit my opinion and give more details.

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September 23, 2009 12:01 AM

You got it for free? My college charged me $20. =(

September 23, 2009 5:10 AM

PrototypeNM1 said: You got it for free? My college charged me $20. =(
 
 
GREEDY COLLEGE! unless you got a a real disk. I had to download mine...and it looks kida counterfit lol. :)

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September 23, 2009 10:30 AM

XD Did get a real disk.

September 23, 2009 12:18 PM

PrototypeNM1 said:

Never had these problems, must be the end user. ;D

Now we have both made our assumptions, why not spend some time analyzing why you are having such problems? Maybe start with when it started acting like this, or was it out of the box?



Sure - I have another thread out there about the diagnostics.
It's Vista 32 and the problem is intermittent. I bought it from a guy who bought it from a guy, so I guess I get what I deserve. BUT there should be SOME WAY to tell where the problem lies. IS THERE A WAY TO TELL FOR CERTAIN IF THERE'S A HARDWARE PROBLEM?

September 23, 2009 12:38 PM

by the way - when the pen stopped working the other day I accidentally ran it over with my car. That said, I got a new pen from HP today. All i can do is hope the pen was the problem the whole time.

September 25, 2009 1:25 PM

Hardware issues are very difficult to diagnose from software. It's unfortunate, but true. (And I've been in QA for over 10 years myself and in IT for almost 20.)

I've had no problems at all with my pen. I do have an occasional annoying issue where the screen will register a "phantom" touch on the lower left side of the screen repeatedly, but a reboot always fixes it. I'm running the Win 7 RC with the beta N-Trig drivers, so I'm not too surprised to see the occasional issue.

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