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alstrup

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Hi,

I have a 820 model, but the spindle in it seems to be badly balanced, because the entire thing vibrates and makes a low-frequency, very annoying noise.

I have tested that the HD is the source by taking it apart, and powering it up with the HD drawn out.

So I'm considering to get a SSD as a replacement to make it quiet. Does anybody have any experience with this?

Most SSDs seems to be 2.5", but I guess I can just get an adapter?

Thanks for any input,
Asger Ottar Alstrup

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November 9, 2009 6:15 AM updated: November 9, 2009 6:16 AM

I have a 2TB 7200RPM Hitachi drive in my 816t. It doesn't make any obnoxious sounds. It could be your specific hard drive. Try installing another hard drive before going on the SSD route. A SSD runs quiet ,but they use more processes and cost a lot more than traditional magnetic drives. Also the SSD would cost an arm and a leg for only a few gigabytes of storage.

EG:
128GB SSD = $369+
2TB 7200RPM magnetic drive = $180

If you do decide to buy an SSD drive. I suggest you go for a Corsair P128. You can easily use a 2.5" to 3.5" adapter for it. It would make your touchsmart blazing fast at launching applications and boot/shutdown times.

Rocking a IQ816T

November 9, 2009 2:09 PM

OK, thanks. After researching this some more, I'm probably going for a 2.5" HD, with the Scythe Quite Drive 2.5" noise cancelling adapter:

http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/hdd/008/sqd251000_detail.html#

Now I just need to find out what 2.5" drive is the most quiet.

November 9, 2009 4:16 PM

I was having vibration problems too and remedied it with a couple easy and one moderate fix. First, I made some rubber "pads" for under the feet and backrest. I actually used and old flexible neoprene mousepad, cut it to size and placed the rubber pieces under the three points that make contact with my desk.
Second, I used black electrical tape to tape around the seam of the removeable cover on the back of my touchsmart. I also (but not necessary) used black splitloom to cover and tidy up my cables - what few there are. :-)
Finally, I went with a better HDD. All I hear now is my CPU VPU fans. Pretty quiet.

While an SSD will quiet your system down, they are still very high priced in comparison and not nearly as much storage capacity. A smaller laptop drive will probably make less vibration but they generally don't perform as well as their larger desktop cousins.
I also think the largest I have seen is a 500gb laptop drive.

David

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November 10, 2009 8:27 PM

An SSD uses more processes? Where do you get that? To the system it's just a hard drive. It does run quite a bit faster with an SSD. I have one installed on my desktop and it's like night and day compared to a hard drive. The issue with the touchsmart is that since it only has room for 1 internal drive, you will probably want to get one of the portable media drives that go in the top slot of the pc for your main storage. You don't really want to use an SSD for all your storage. On my desktop the SSD is just my boot drive and also holds all my apps. All my data is stored on a magnetic 1TB drive.

November 13, 2009 1:27 AM

I would advise against using an ssd as the dedicated drive in a single drive computer. Not only is it expensive for the capacity, but you really should be paying double that for the premium ssd models that implement "slc" design and possibly better i/o controller. The more common "mlc" design gives 2x capacity for the price, but due to the additional complexity of interleaving data into single cells to give that capacity advantage, it likewise complicates performance issues when it comes to heavy random read/write operations. You will pay dearly in performance when it comes to overall lifespan and vulnerability to lengthy i/o stalls as the disk controller clears cells for reuse. That is where the slc design is more suited to handle typical Windows OS disk behavior, but you will pay through the nose for it, and then pay through the nose on top of that to get a decent amount of capacity.

As a secondary drive to store your media, documents, apps for lightning speed access, ssd works really nice, though. That's the real zinger about ssd. You can't just throw it into a computer as a general purpose drive because for some kinds of things it will be really, really good, but on other things, it will horrendously bad. If you use it in conjunction with a classic hdd and willing to skillfully arrange the workloads to end up on the most appropriate drive, things could work out great.

There is talk that Win 7 may implement some sort of "trim" command that makes the ssd process of reconciling empty cells more friendly, however said optimizes will be in an infant state at best at this point.

Probably the most plug'n'play friendly way to take advantage of ssd like functionality is to just take advantage of the ReadyBoost function with a high-speed usb thumbdrive. Those are really not that far removed in performance to what you would get with a typical mlc-flavor ssd. Such an ssd is just the grand-daddy size configuration of a usb drive.

November 13, 2009 6:33 AM

Sorry to say that these guys are not giving you very accurate information. Here is where they are quite wrong.

1.) SSD uses more processes. Incorrect.

I have two OCZ Vertex Hard Drives. They have been tested for months now and they use no more processes then what a standard Rotational HDD uses.

2.) You do not need a vibration adaptor for a SSD.

3.) It is an urban myth that SSD create no heat. Incorrect. They do create similar heat to a Rotational HDD.

The Corsair X Series SSD are decent....but if you want the best quality and one that has PROPER Firmware and PROPER methods to upgrade that firmware then you look no further than the OCZ Vertex Series. The Agility series are quite excellent as well. The next best brand would be the FALCON ones from G.Skill.

Just grab a 64GB HDD and a fast 500GB Western Digital External Drive and you will have all that you need.

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November 13, 2009 9:15 AM

I will somewhat agree with Randycat99's recommendation. SSD's are not for everyone, they do require some level of OS tweaking to reduce writes as MLC based drives (the affordable ones) have limited write cylces (10,000 per cell). Read the article below, it is very informative and will help dismiss the urban legends about SSD's and their technology.

I will add that TRIM is already supported in Windows 7, and it's not something that needs to be "optimized." Right now the only drives that support TRIM are drives based on the indilix controller (OCZ Vertex, SuperTalent UltraDrive, and Crucial SSD). Intel's solution has a bug on the latest TRIM enabled firmware, so it has been pulled until further notice. If you want to get the complete lowdown on SSD's, this article is by far the most comprehensive one I've ever read.

http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3631

and the update on the TRIM issue:

http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3667

November 13, 2009 4:34 PM

You forgot to mention that the Indilix Controller is also on the FALCON drives as well.

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