Coming from somone who's done the whole dual boot thing many times before with many different operating systems, iv'e found that in general you'll be asking for a day of pain trying to get things working flawlessly.
The best advice i can give you for the question your asking here, is to download microsoft virtual PC from here http://www.microsoft.com/windows/downloads/virtualpc/default.mspx and then set up and install an XP instalation into that.
It'll save you having to re-org and partition your single drive in the TS for a start, and it means you can run the best of both worlds side by side on the same screen at the same time.
Is it possible to make a TouchSmart IQ504 computer a dual-boot machine, both Vista 64-bit and XP (or even 32-bit Vista)? Here's my reason for asking the question:
I bought my TouchSmart for my visually-impaired daughter. The touch screen enables her to bypass so many of the problems she was having in just seeing a mouse cursor. She is really making progress thanks to this wonderful technology! However....
The 64-bit Vista OS won't load software we've received from her school district. The specific software I'm trying to load is "ZoomText Magnifier/Reader version 9.1". It's software designed especially to help visually impaired get more from their computers. Unfortunately, the company that wrote it (and other companies that have written other assistive technology software) has no firm date for when they will roll out a 64-bit version....
For my daughter's sake, I'm very reluctant to give up this big screen computer with the touchscreen. I've done a little research online about setting up dual-boot systems. I'm thinking I could make this computer a dual-boot system and load the ZoomText software on the XP side, and she'd be able to use it thru XP. When she needs the touchscreen for other applications, she could switch to Vista. (I've been told by HP tech support that the touchscreen has to run on 64-bit Vista, so downgrading to XP isn't really an option I want to explore.)
Am I totally out to lunch? Will this probably void the warranty on the TouchSmart if I make it a dual-boot system? Or, is there another way I can force the software to load? Thanks in advance to anyone with advice/suggestions!
One thing that you can try is the windows screen magnifier. Start > All Programs > Accessories > Ease of Access > Screen Magnifier.
If you use Internet explorer a lot, you can click on the font magnification on the lower right of the IE screen. Default is 100% but you can go all the way up to 400%
David
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Woohoo! I won my Touchsmart!
Shawty:
Thanks for the suggestion about Virtual PC. It seems to be the ticket for getting things to work, without the hassle of plowing through a dual-boot setup. So far, it's doing most of what I need it to do. -- Harry
Harry:
Happy to hear that. I use Virtual for all manner of things, i even have Linux/Unix/Beos and other operating systems running under vista 64bit.
If you ever decide you want to go for a fully paid commercial solution, then VMware is the one to look at.
Best reagrds, and seasons greetings.
Shawty
Excuse the interruption but according to Microsoft's website, virtual pc is not intended to run on the home edition of vista that comes with the Touchsmart. did you upgrade your version of vista?
Thanks.
Nope, mine came pre-installed with vista proffessional.
Mines a bit of an odity to be honest, beacuse the exact spec is slightly different to the other IQ512 models iv'e seen described on the web.
I bought mine out in the middle east, and brought it back to the UK with me.
It may be that this was a slight different version for the middle east market, i don't know, but iv'e not changed anything on it, it's still as it was, bar the fact iv'e installed extra software.
I am having the same problems, but I am trying to find a solution before I buy the 25" version of the HP Touchsmart.
I tried to talk to pre-sales, tech support, and some other depts. the names of whicht I am not sure of. I was passed around like a hot potato, not to mentioned cut-off twice when I was taking too much of their time (their limit I was told is 10 minutes).
One guy in the tech support dept. kept telling me that I will be the envy of all my friends! As if I care what my friends will think if I can't use the thing!!
There is nobody at HP who can give any answers about how seeing impaired users can make adaptive changes to make it easier for us to use.
This is a big mistake on their part, because I too believe this would be a great PC for anyone with visual problems, and it looks like I was right since it helped Harry's daughter. I now use an iPod Touch, and love it! I was hoping this PC would also make using a PC easier and more fun.
The only thing I could do was go into a reseller and take it for a "test drive". It took the sales staff about 25 minutes to try and increase the font. They were able to go through a wizard, a bit like the one I use in XP, and make the task bar a bit larger, but still not usable, and my vision in one eye is 20/400! Everyone keeps telling me it would be no problem to load programs like Zoom Text or Jaws if I needed it in the near future, but I would need Zoom Text now, and I am not sure it could make everything large enough for me to use,especially the task bar.
The monitor is a blind users dream! The letters on my LCD TV.Monitor 23" makes everything larger by decreasing the resolution, but they look like they have little pin-prick holes in them, making E's look like B's, m's look like n's, that kind of thing. If the letters are too large, they get scrunched-up on many web sites, or the "next" or "ok" buttons on the bottom are out of site!
I just don't understand why more thought isn't put into making software and PC's more user friendly for the legally blind and seeing impaired.
As for the on screen magnifier - it is a joke! Try using it yourself and you will see what I mean. I have one on my mouse, but it will not cover whole pages or even sentences. Speech readers are not any easier to use.
There will be more and more seeing impaired users as the Baby Boomers get older and will still want to use their beloved PC's, this market should be addressed when these products are being developed, and then supported.
I am glad I found this dialogue before I shelled out big bucks for an HP TouchSmart, but I am going to still try and see if Zoom Text could be run on this system to make it possible for me to use. The touch screen is a dream come true for the visually impaired, and not just for reasons given to sighted users, but the dream can never be realized if the whole OS is out of reach for us.
Very frustrated, but not giving up just yet! I will let you know if I find anything out that may help your daughter. BTW - I live in Canada.
I answered your post about Win7 but since then, I played a little more with the screen magnifier in vista and compared it to Win7. In Vista, I get a box at the top of the screen about 2" down the follows the cursor. Scrolling through a document is kind of like reading a teleprompter. Without my glasses on it was not readable.
In win 7, the whole screen is magnified with the default settings and the mouse pointer moves the screen around on the monitor, but I could see better. Although the test compared my 25" TS with Vista to mt 12" Tablet PC screen with Win7.
Now, since my tablet PC has a touch screen as well, I could compare it to how it would work on my touchsmart and I must say that the Win7 full screen magnifier works considerably bettter than the "box" in Vista.
On my tablet I set the screen magnification to 300% and it was readable for me without my glasses.
The only problem with the situation is that Win7 is still BETA, and while I'm sure the feature will more than likely be in the final product, things can change.
I will try to take some photographs and post them to compare. It will be my 12" tablet compared to my 25" TS though. I'll try to get them posted tomorrow.
David
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Woohoo! I won my Touchsmart!
Thanks Dave, I guess I should have read this post before I posted my reply, LOL - oh well,I am glad that at least you get where I am coming from with the magnifier, and I hope it will be an improvement with Windows 7.
EYZWIDESHUT said: Everyone keeps telling me it would be no problem to load programs like Zoom Text or Jaws if I needed it in the near future, but I would need Zoom Text now, and I am not sure it could make everything large enough for me to use,especially the task bar.
Hello EYZWIDESHUT! ZoomText just came out with a beta version that runs on the 64-bit vista platform. I believe they've even moved it out of beta and into production. We have the beta version on our TouchSmart and it seems to work fairly well. We will be working with our school district to obtain a licensed production version.
However, you do have to realize that ZoomText probably wasnt' designed specifically with touch technology in mind. For example we've seen that with ZoomText running, when you touch the screen, expecting the mouse cursor to be directly under your finger, that ZoomText actually offsets the cursor a bit. The offset is apparently tied to how much magnification you select in ZoomText. (I'm a brand-new user to ZoomText, so I apologize if any ignorance is showing!) So far, that's not a big issue with my daughter, but it could be for you.
I'd think the ZoomText folks could partner with HP to seamlessly integrate their software with TouchSmart computers. They could check out the "For Developers" section of the TouchSmart community. What an opportunity for them!
As for trying a dual-boot solution: I did that, it seemed to permit the older version of ZoomText to work -- but now that there's a 64-bit version of ZoomText, we abandoned the dual boot idea. And, a big point to keep in mind: when you booted to a 32-bit operating system, the Touch Screen technology wouldn't work. TouchSmart was built to run on the 64-bit platform.
I hope my experiences are helpful; good luck to you!
Thanks so much for your information about the 64 bit Zoom Text. So far I have only had to use it after eye surgery gone bad, and am hoping to not need it in the future, but one must be realistic when investing so much money on a product that is so important. I find the Touch tech stuff is so large, I doubt Zoom Text would be needed, it is more for the Vista, things like the task bar, and things that can't be made larger with the Ctl scroll wheel command or my keyboard/mouse magnifyer. My intermediate vision is not that bad, but I have severe double vision and even with prism eye glasses, it can make using a PC very tiring on the eyes.
I think I will make the investment now, since I really do need it, instead of waiting for them to come down in price. I just love my iPod Touch, so know this will make using a computer that much more enjoyable and productive since I do so much with photos, videos, and music.
Now to just find one for a decent price in Canada...
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