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I'm TOTALLY confused on which Slingbox I should get.  HD would be nice but not a requirement.  I really want to be able to watch what I want to watch on the Touchsmart and not what is on the host TV.  With that I guess I should opt for the Sling HD?  Matt? Help a brother out?  I have Comcast and Motorola DCT 3416 Dual Tuner DVR.  Also, is the splitter installed before the Motorola Box  or after?   I'm not sure how the slingbox would receive the HD signal if installed before the Moto cable Box.  Thanks.

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January 26, 2009 11:07 PM updated: January 26, 2009 11:28 PM

"I'm TOTALLY confused on which Slingbox I should get.  HD would be nice but not a requirement."

If you want HD (which you do, trust me) you'll want to pick up the Slingbox PRO-HD. If you're a cable subscriber with a High-Def capable box, then it's the way to go.

"I really want to be able to watch what I want to watch on the Touchsmart and not what is on the host TV."

Here's the deal. You have to think about the Slingbox like it's another TV. In regards to your cable box, if you connected two TVs to the same cable box, you'll see the same thing on both TVs. It's like two people sitting in front of the same TV and both of them have a remote control... chaos ensues. :)

The nice part about the PRO-HD is that it also has a Clear-QAM capable HD cable tuner built in, so it will also be able to receive any unencrypted HD channels your provider offers. Since the tuner is built in for this, you can watch these channels independently of your HD Cable box if it's in use by another person. So, if your spouse is watching something on the DVR, you can watch something from the tuner in the Slingbox. If the cable box is not in use, you can watch and control it from the TouchSmart.

Of course, if you want access to a cable box 100% of the time, you can always get a second HD cable box specifically for the Slingbox.

"Also, is the splitter installed before the Motorola Box  or after?   I'm not sure how the slingbox would receive the HD signal if installed before the Moto cable Box."

In the case of the Slingbox PRO HD, you'd put a splitter before the cable box so you can hook up the cable box tuner and the built in tuner on the Slingbox. You'd also then plug the component video and audio cables from the cable box into the Slingbox so it can grab the signal from the cable box (it has pass through outputs to go to your TV if the component connection is in use).

Then the Slingbox needs to be connected to your home network. If you don't have an Ethernet jack near your HD DVR, then you'd need to run a wire from your bedroom to your router/nearest network switch, get a Wi-Fi to Ethernet bridge (802.11g or better), or grab a powerline network bridge kit. Any of those solutions will work.

You can learn more about the Slingbox PRO HD and how it's set up by reading my full review at the SlingCommunity.com website: http://www.slingcommunity.com/article/30329/Slingbox-PRO-HD-Hands-On-Review/

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January 27, 2009 6:37 AM

ok, great info Matt. Pro-HD it shall be!

January 27, 2009 4:19 PM updated: January 27, 2009 4:20 PM

I ordered the HD-Pro but I have a couple of questions; Why does the Slingbox need to be connected to the Cable Box or TV via component cables? Isn't it getting the signal directly from the splitter? If I use the Cable box, won't the Slingbox then display what is being watched on the cable box?

Also, my wireless router doesn't have any available ports. I plan on hardwiring the slingbox to my network so is it OK if I just add a network switch to the wireless router and connect that way?

January 27, 2009 5:18 PM

Like a TV, it can do both. The nice part about having the DVR hooked up is that you'll get more than your basic Clear QAM or analog cable channels. You'll have access to whatever the cable box does, including what you have recorded on the DVR. You'll find yourself using the cable box when no one else is using it, then defaulting to the basic cable when the cable box is being watched by someone else.

Yep, if you're out of ports on your router's built in switch, then adding an external switch will work just fine. :)

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January 27, 2009 5:44 PM updated: January 27, 2009 5:45 PM

I still don't understand the Sling and it's connections. Let's say I'm watching Slinged TV on my IQ and someone starts to watch the TV that is connected to the Sling and changes the channel. what happens to the IQ channel? Will it change? I don't want it to change.

January 28, 2009 10:52 AM

robdam1001 said: I still don't understand the Sling and it's connections. Let's say I'm watching Slinged TV on my IQ and someone starts to watch the TV that is connected to the Sling and changes the channel. what happens to the IQ channel? Will it change? I don't want it to change.

Your DVR/cable box will only output to one TV at a time, and connecting a Slingbox is just like hooking up two TVs to the same box. So, if you are watching something from your cable box/DVR and someone grabs the remote and starts changing channels at the main TV, you're both using the same box so they're changing channels for both of you.

That's why there's also the built-in tuner in the Slingbox, which operates independently of the cable box. You'll be able to watch whatever basic cable or Clear QAM HD channels your provider offers. Many providers, like Comcast, require a cable box to watch certain channels in your package. The tuner in the Slingbox won't be able to receive these.

So, for example, if you want to watch ABC and your spouse Cinemax, you're just fine because you can get ABC from the Slingbox tuner and your spouse can use the cable box.

Now, if you wanted to watch HBO (a premium channel that requires a box) and the spouse wanted to watch Cinemax (another premium channel that requires the cable box), there's a conflict because the cable box can't tune and display both channels simultaneously. The same goes if you both wanted to watch different programs recorded on the DVR. The only way around that is to get a second cable box or DVR specifically for the Slingbox. 

Follow?

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January 28, 2009 11:41 AM updated: January 28, 2009 11:44 AM

Yes, thanks for breaking it down for me Matt. So by not connecting the slingbox to the Comcast DVR box and just using the splitter, I *should* be able to receive HD channels from Comcast on the IQ via Slingbox? NBC, ABC, CBS, etc as long as they aren't premium channels correct?

January 28, 2009 12:03 PM

Matt, is this correct?

Cable from wall outlet goes to splitter "In". Splitter "Out" #1 goes to Comcast DVR just as it does now. Splitter "Out" #2 goes to Slingbox HD. Is that it?

January 28, 2009 12:03 PM updated: January 28, 2009 12:12 PM

robdam1001 said: Yes, thanks for breaking it down for me Matt. So by not connecting the slingbox to the Comcast DVR box and just using the splitter, I *should* be able to receive HD channels from Comcast on the IQ via Slingbox? NBC, ABC, CBS, etc as long as they aren't premium channels correct?

I can't vouch for what Comcast sends Clear QAM in any area. Here, I get the locals and a few other basic cable channels. Every area is different though. You can check what channels you receive if you have an HDTV with an integrated Clear-QAM tuner. Plug the cable line straight into the HDTV and run a scan for HD cable stations. What you see is what you get, but all cable operators should expand the number of Clear QAM channels down the road.

Don't think for a second this is an either/or proposition. You can have BOTH the basic cable line AND the cable box hooked up the Slingbox at the same time. You just select what input you want to view in the SlingPlayer software. So if the Cable box isn't available, you change the Slingbox input to the built-in tuner. Again, just like a TV.

Mind Over Matt'er - Technology musings, opinion, and more straight from TechLore's head geek.

January 28, 2009 12:08 PM

robdam1001 said: Matt, is this correct? Cable from wall outlet goes to splitter "In". Splitter "Out" #1 goes to Comcast DVR just as it does now. Splitter "Out" #2 goes to Slingbox HD. Is that it?

Good so far.

You also want to plug the component video ouput from the cable box into the component video input on the Slingbox. If the component cable on the DVR is currently going to the TV, you'll want to put the Slingbox between the DVR and the TV.

Component out of cablebox -> Input of Slingbox, then Component out of Slingbox -> TV input  

You'll also need to wire in either the L/R audio cables or digital coax (marked SPDIF) to the Slingbox and possible back out to the TV or a home theater system depending on how you have it wired.

Mind Over Matt'er - Technology musings, opinion, and more straight from TechLore's head geek.

January 28, 2009 12:16 PM updated: January 28, 2009 12:18 PM

Matt Whitlock said:
robdam1001 said: Yes, thanks for breaking it down for me Matt. So by not connecting the slingbox to the Comcast DVR box and just using the splitter, I *should* be able to receive HD channels from Comcast on the IQ via Slingbox? NBC, ABC, CBS, etc as long as they aren't premium channels correct?
 Don't think for a second this is an either/or proposition. You can have BOTH the basic cable line AND the cable box hooked up the Slingbox at the same time. You just select what input you want to view in the SlingPlayer software. So if the Cable box isn't available, you change the Slingbox input to the built-in tuner. Again, just like a TV.
 
AHHHHHHHH!! That's great news.  I guess I should wait until my Sling arrives before I ask all these noob questions.  Just trying to prepare.  I didn't know that it is selectable via the Slingbox software.  That's awesome.

January 28, 2009 12:17 PM

Matt Whitlock said:
robdam1001 said: Matt, is this correct? Cable from wall outlet goes to splitter "In". Splitter "Out" #1 goes to Comcast DVR just as it does now. Splitter "Out" #2 goes to Slingbox HD. Is that it?
Good so far. You also want to plug the component video ouput from the cable box into the component video input on the Slingbox. If the component cable on the DVR is currently going to the TV, you'll want to put the Slingbox between the DVR and the TV. Component out of cablebox -> Input of Slingbox, then Component out of Slingbox -> TV input   You'll also need to wire in either the L/R audio cables or digital coax (marked SPDIF) to the Slingbox and possible back out to the TV or a home theater system depending on how you have it wired.
My Comcast DVR is connected to Samsung HDTV via HDMI so component inputs/outputs are all available.

January 28, 2009 1:03 PM

If the component video connection is open, then you just need to run it and the audio to the input on the Slingbox. Ignore the outputs.

That being said, some DVRs (yours I'm not sure) will not output HDMI and component signals simultaneously, and others will turn off all outputs if the TV is off since the HDMI port knows if the TV is on or not (HDCP issue). You'll need to experiment a bit to see how your cable box behaves. Ideally, it will always output on all jacks regardless if HDMI is used.

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January 29, 2009 7:24 PM

Sling HD arrived today and setup/installation was simple. I'm up and running on my IQ! Thanks for your help and time Matt. One question: I can't figure out how to watch a different channel than what is on my cable box. I installed the splitter before the cable box with 1 "out" going to Slingbox and other "out" going to cable box just as it was before. Matt, you mentioned that this is selectable from the slingbox software, correct? For the life of me I cannot find it. Thanks.

January 29, 2009 9:42 PM

I saw you posted over on the SlingCommunity site too! From one Slinger to another, welcome!

In order to switch between the internal tuner and the cable box, you need to first make sure that you've configured the tuner on the Slingbox.

In SlingPlayer 2.0, Launch the setup assistant (connect to the Slingbox, then select Settings at the top, then Setup Assistant) then go to "Configure Video Sources." Select "ANT IN" and click next at the bottom. Follow the wizard the rest of the way through, and you'll be set up.

Once that's done, to switch inputs hit Connect at the top, then arrow over "Video Input." You'll see the different inputs. Select the input you wish to view and you're all set. :)

Mind Over Matt'er - Technology musings, opinion, and more straight from TechLore's head geek.

January 29, 2009 9:54 PM updated: January 29, 2009 9:57 PM

OK, I tried that and when I select "Ant" I get "Not detecting any video". I verified the splitter connections and I even tried a different "out" on the splitter with the same results.

January 29, 2009 10:09 PM

Matt, we can pick this up here: http://www.slingcommunity.com/forum/thread/33226/Watch-a-different-channel-th...

January 30, 2009 2:36 PM

you should have continued the discussion here for those other members looking for the same solution :)

as for me, I used Sony's Locationfree device to do the same thing. i got it for cheap at ebay [brand new] plus it also works with my PSP. so far the touchsmart in the kitchen/dining area is also a 22" TV :)

January 30, 2009 3:15 PM

krblgc said: you should have continued the discussion here for those other members looking for the same solution :) as for me, I used Sony's Locationfree device to do the same thing. i got it for cheap at ebay [brand new] plus it also works with my PSP. so far the touchsmart in the kitchen/dining area is also a 22" TV :)
You can; just click on the link that I provided.

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