I have TX2500z tablet and have the same app on mine as well. Yes, you are correct...they do get hot and my fan runs quite often and would make a good leave blower too.

I shut down the process and will see how it works.

Thanks for the tip!

David

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Nice tip!

The machine I got wouldn't stop the fan if I plug the power cord. I went into BIOS and there's an option for fan. You may need to change that to turn off the lousy fan too.

HP need fix the fan when machine is pluged to power source.

The fan only speed up with hight temperatures and go to maximum speed with 89 deregres, AMD cpu used on TX shutdown at 100c........

Make cpu go from 70 to 89 all time just make the life oc cpu be shorter.
The rest components have short live due this execive temperature.
I sugest to HP, provide to customers aplication for speed up minimum fan speed.
Its really needed.

Just got mine today..the fan is so annoying..I don't think I can take this to any meeting with me. I have tried all sorts of ways to stop the fan but still running at the same pace...just at certain occasions it stops for a while before it goes into the sleep mode. but as soon as you open a program or a webpage it starts.
When it's charging the battery, the noise is even twice as worse. I am calling hp tomorrow to return this piece of crap. Guys seriuosly think about it before you buy it.
I hope they take this back.

DaveTN said: Change your power mode to battery saver. It throttles the cpu back to its lowest (and coolest) settings. The fan should throttle back some too. Mine makes a lot of noise while plugged in but on battery its not at the point of where it would disrupt a meeting. Note on fans. Do NOT try to stop them all together. fans come on to cool the CPU. When the CPU is processing data it heats up and the fan comes on. The fan is the lifeline to keep your CPU alive. I have heard of people sticking paper clips in their fans just to quiet them down and in the end, I have to stick a new CPU in their laptop. David

I'm an electronic engineer and designing embedded systems is my main job and I also work for Sun Microsystems. I'm mentioning these just to say I’m not an amateur to stick a paper into the fan.

I have tried all sorts of tricks and so far no luck. A friend of mine just got his and he has exactly the same problems.

overheating is a design issue for tx2 platform Or in other words choosing AMD for such a small platform and chassis is a huge mistake which is mainly aimed at reducing the cost without considering the side effects.

For a tablet pc which you need to hold it in your hand is absolutely ridicules to blow the heat from the sides where your hands are but they had to so this as placing the processor (or the cooling fan ) in the mid-section would have increased the heat due the leakage of heat from the other components. But considering the locations of many components, it is more than evident that they have changed the entire platform design after noticing the overheating issue.

I have gone through all design aspects of this laptop. It seems that cooling system is the last thing hp has worked on. Having said that, if I can access the bios it would be possible to kind of control the fan by changing the upper thresholds to a higher value and reducing the lower threshold to a lower value to keep the processor at a lower temperature for longer in order to prevent it from overheating.

Regards

Addressing your first point, Yes that's exactly what I said. although I knew it was goign to be a warmer platform but not this warm. Still I think they should have gone with Intel rather than AMD. a fair tradeoff between a slightly slower system and a cooler platform.

2) I'm a left-handed ;).

To your other comments, Yes the less power consumption the cooler the system gets. So while the battery is charging the power consumption is kind of doubled leading to more heat.

About the display, yeah it is another big problem but I've seen other tablets to be kind of the same including the HP business models.

The programs you mentioned, Waterfall and the others all used "wait states" on the CPU, which "throttled" your CPU in essence by "turning off" unused gates when there was low demand. Your hardware had to support this. Windows 95,98 and XP did not have software that did this, thus why it worked. If you were lucky enough to have computer running Windows Server 2000... the OS had this feature supported and you didn't need the 3rd party software. When SP1 for windows XP came out, it included the code for wait states (fist time we saw "power settings"). So from XP sp1+ you don't need any software to do this as its now done by the OS. Vista, Server 2003, and Windows 7 all use even newer stuff that reduces power consumption considerably compared to a XP sp3 platform. Speed-stepping and wait states were just the first features of hopefully many more to come.

You can thank all the lovely Inetl Xeon lovers for these features as they were first implemented there for heat and power consumption reduction.

So, in essence... if your running XP SP1+ or newer OS on your laptop there really is no advantage to getting these programs any more. However, they just "might" give you a tad bit more configuration options over the default power profiles. But, you might have to pay for that - the settings from the OS are free :-)

Hey guys, the above issue dident seem to fix my problem..but on th eover hand i noticed the smartmenu process was up to 40%! i killed the process and magicaly the pc went silent(lost the smart menu option mind you:/) this dosent seem to happen always, i think there is some kind of bug that makes startup processes kind of block.My tip is: if the fan starts going crazy check the task manager..and check for anything that seems to bee using to mutch cpu (beyond the nomal processes that you would espect to fin high).

hope this helps bye!

Guys I've got my replacement from hp, fan noise is still the same. Moreover keyboard stops working from time to time and doesn't work at all unless you do a reset. Called hp and suprisingly they admitted the keyboard issue is quite common since the tech guy said there were other people having the same problem.
and that's not all, there is a new kind of pitch noise at the left side of the display which 100% comes from the backlight as by changing the backlight it changes too and I know what it is technically.

Overall Im not happy even with the normal performance of this system regardless of the fan noise and keyboard.

I Asked for the full refund.

I wont recommend this system to anybody..

HP developers make absolutly bad work related to air flow over CPU in this unit and very poor heatsink. (and all tx series)
Basically they used no efficient fan, fan need turn high speed for move high volume of air,
You can put your hand close to air OUTPUT of this notebook when fan spin to maximum speed and you can see the noise not have relation with the air moved out.
Really poor work, i sell my unit.
I buyed this unit only for add multitouch support to software i developed www.monotouchlive.com, multitouch can wait i cant continue using this hairdryer and i cant sugest to anyone buy one of this units.
Really sorry for this hard words, but this is the reality, this machine can be compared with hairdryer.

About touchscreen i see strange things like some moment touch stop work or make strange things.
I think that is related to surface capacitive touchscreen, this kind of touchscreen can be afected by EMI, por ground situations, noise line etc etc.
I know this because i use this HP with my software in some extreme conditions like is a NIGHT CLUB with high temps, high vibrations, lot of electric devices conneted to line, lot of people with cell phones creating interference etc etc. And touchscreen turn crazy lot of times, the only way i obtain perfect work is using GROUND STRAP COONECTED TO MY HAND AND TO GROUND OF THE NOTEBOOK.
I know i use in extreme conditions, but in home situations, this touchscreen bugs exist, at rare times, but exist.
I contact to NTRIG for inform this torubles i like the NTRIG digitizer.
Anyway bye bye HP ! i really not like this hairdryer tablet.
Hey HP! guys want create the best computer of the world? next time callme....kick all your igeniers.........if HP pay for this bad work............lol
Is amazing just for single reason.
All parts are from other vendors, absolutly all, all HP just need do is research about the case design, block internal devices from EMI interference, make the temperature work at lower values creating good air flow in the case, maximise battery life selecting correct internal devices..........
Callme the next time...i can do the work in correct way.

Why i stay secure temperature spread used on this notebook is wrong, very simple, just put cpu over stress load, and you can see waht temperature do.........just jump to heaven.
That no is normal, no in that faster way...that just show heatsink used is absolutly poor.
Aditional to taht bios is configured for jump to high speed when temprature value is so HIGH......that is really stupid thing......make the CPU go from 60c to 8oc all time just make the cpu live secrease in tons of hours...
HP can launch bios for increase the minimum speed of fans, but when CPU have little high load again you cna listen the fans to maximum speed.

Make this test on any computer, put temperature meter to run, stop fan with your hands, load your cpu, and put atention how much time temperature take to increase, you can see temperature without fan go really in steps to high values.........

ON HP, notebook, heatsink uses is really poor and can handle cpu load and depend of forced AIR all time, any shor load make the fan turn to maximum speed.......

Everybody blame to AMD...........sorry but the problem no is AMD, problem is the fan and heatsink HP choice.
HP if plain use this case, just find the way to add another pipe for direct the heat to any othr extra placew with extra hole.... and please use silent fans.